which right now is a big assumption. >> big assumption. >> huge. >> a lot of fuddy-duddy math. >> still not getting serious. >> i went away from fuzzy. >> all fuzzied up? is that like, fuddy-duddy? >> yes. >> moving beyond the 2000 election. so -- all right. >> you know -- are you surprised they don't have a deal today? because i actually, really -- i mean, i really thought -- >> i would be shocked if they don't have a deal in the next two or three days. i -- again, republican freshmen may have a big ideological difference with barack obama and his world view. it is no more -- the divide is no greater than ronald reagan's was with tip o'neill in 1983, when they sat down, and did a deal. the same with newt gingrich and bill clinton in the 1990s. i mean, yes. you differ with barack obama and the democrats, but -- you get the bill. >> usually you're good at seeing someone's angle. what's the angle? >> i see the angle. these republicans believe this is their only opportunity to -- >> are they so stuck to their -- >> do you want knee answer -- >> that they cannot even think outsided box for